February 3, 2023

I believed I might be sitting down with Lil Dicky to debate the upcoming third season of his FX comedy Dave. However, by the tip of our interview, Dave Burd and I are contemplating the morality of mankind. “I really feel like human beings by default are good. Do you agree?” he asks, and he’s genuinely interested by my reply.

We get there by the use of Kanye West, as so typically occurs as of late: Whereas the brand new season of Dave will function a ton of thrilling visitor stars, together with Usher, Rick Ross, Don Cheadle, Demi Lovato, Machine Gun Kelly, Megan Fox, Killer Mike, and Travis Barker, Burd does verify that West won’t be considered one of them.

This isn’t surprising given how issues have modified for West within the final yr, however I’m interested by how Burd feels concerning the artist proper now, as the primary two seasons of the present are seeped in references to Kanye as an aspirational determine. Particularly, I need to understand how Burd wrestles with the problem we’re all dealing with as of late: Reckoning with our pre-existing fandom for individuals who have revealed themselves to be some extent of poisonous.

We’re talking on the Tv Critics Affiliation winter press tour, which implies Burd is ready for a full day of journalists asking him questions on this subject. “In any Kanye query that got here up at present, I used to be gonna say, ‘I really feel like he’s within the headlines sufficient proper now, and I simply need to give attention to the present,’” he says.

However then, he continues, “a whole lot of what you’re describing is a whole lot of the themes inside [Dave Season 3]. Like, I’m on tour, wherever I’m going, somebody may very well be filming me as I’m peeing and having an off-the-record dialog with GaTa about what I search for in a girl. There are good issues and unhealthy issues about all of it, you recognize what I imply?”

By “all of that,” he means, “such accountability. I feel on the one hand, society solely will get higher when folks collectively deal with folks higher and maintain folks to requirements of kindness and goodness, which I feel all of us inherently ought to simply be striving to be good. It depends upon the state of affairs, clearly, after all. Every thing has totally different execs and cons. However it’s tough. I simply suppose everybody ought to attempt to be good and we take it from there.”

That’s a fairly stable reply to one of many largest questions in life — one this author desires to agree with, no less than. Beneath, transcribed and edited for readability, Burd digs into a number of questions extra particularly associated to Dave the collection, equivalent to what’s happening together with his long-awaited second album, whether or not or not he sees the Dave portrayed on the collection as any totally different from who he’s in actual life, what else we would count on from Season 3, and what number of extra seasons he hopes the present would possibly run.


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